Total # of Attendees: 20
The guild had its annual holiday dinner for members and spouses at the Short Hills Deli in Cherry Hill, NJ. Good food and drink, and great conversation – including non-woodworking-related topics.
November 7, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 26
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:25 PM.
First order of business is the annual Holiday party (early December)
Jim’s Nephew opened a brewery in Westville.
Don’t have food, but you can order in food from the local area
Jim will see if we can get it for the whole site
Group voted and decided to go with normal restaurant
Tool auction (January 2nd meeting)
Club asks for 10%
People put in price ticket
Great opportunity to pick up some tools that folks have sitting in their shop that aren’t being used
New folks: Chet
Been working with wood since he was 18. Good overview of swinging a hammer
Getting more serious about making “Morris street maker” on Instagram
New folks: Greg
Carpenter, 30 years; done woodworking on side (stuff for family and friends)
Curved desk, cabinets. Building a vanity right now
Just built a Roubo workbench
New Folks: Gianna
Student at college of NJ
Working on building a water screen with a wooden frame
Wants to meet more people with skills
Lauren presented
Business “HonorableOak” in Philadelphia
Master’s in Fine Art
Originally came from Pittsburgh, moved to Ohio, Pittsburgh, and finally at Temple University
Met Mike in Haddonfield crafts fair
Passed out timeline/pictures of work that she has done
Made lamppost, wooden cutouts, three-story items
Refurbished table with granite top, cleaned up legs, frames and moldings
Worked with Urban Outfitters, eventually got to their home office (Navy yard in Philly)
Urban Outfitters have shops in all their stores – so the fixtures in the store are made there, and used for sales (if successful, they’d reuse them)
A lot of good info on building store fixtures, how to retrofit/add to them, or re-use them
One of the key points is to build them as modular pieces, so they can be re-used, mixed and matched, and re-purposed
Leaves items glued up and in clamps for 24 hours to help the glue cure and to reduce warping
Use Walnut oil and wax for finishing, rather than just mineral oil
Also makes earrings out of scrap wood. Uses jig to cut tiny parts.
Does craft fairs and Etsy shop: https://www.etsy.com/shop/HonorableOak
Uses a lunchbox DeWalt planer to flatten, then sand down to at least 400 grit
88% of her customers who took her business card at craft fair, or through recommendations. Smaller percentage are from folks straight from Etsy
William showed his magazine rack – mortise and tenon,
Angled pieces, kind of arts and crafts
Red Oak 1x6’s
Gianna talked more about her projects
Showed small scale version of what she is trying to build on her phone
Trying to make it modular so she can commute to school
Doesn’t need it to last more than 5 hours, but would like to keep it beyond – due to the show
Dave Potts gave treasurer’s report: $1,788.87 remaining in account.
Looking for a good speaker in Jan or Feb
Next Meeting will be the dinner meeting with members and family/friends. Date TBD
The meeting concluded at 9:03 PM.
October 3, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 19
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:34 PM; he was a little under the weather.
Frankie Puzzatello is in the hospital. Jim has a card for everyone to sign
Next Thursday, heading to Westville Brewery in Westville, NJ, at 7 PM
John Owens continued his presentation on carving
Reviewed what he discussed at last meeting (what you can carve, benches, tools, lighting, etc.)
Went over numbering. First # is “Sweep” which is the curve
Second number (usually in millimeters) is the width of the blade (e.g., 7mm means the gouge is 7mm) across)
Over the break there will be an opportunity to try out the tools
Showed pictures of some of the projects you could work on (Cabinetry, Chest-on-chest, carving of figures, chip carving, etc.)
Doesn’t recommend chip carving to start – need to be close to perfect; not for a beginner
Discussion on methods to carve (handholds, way to control, etc.)
Using a Dremel or other rotary tool, if you are doing fine detail you need to plant your hand to get better control
Holding gouge very similar to how you handle lathe tool. Wrap left hand around tool, acts as brake and guide
Right hand provides the power and steers like a tiller on a sailboat
Rarely uses a mallet – relies on sharp gouges to make the cuts. Feels he has a better “feel” for the wood.
For marking it, tapes carbon paper on wood, then gets pattern and places on top. Patterns are available by book, online, or even something from a picture – then trace out with carbon paper on the wood
Good way to cut out pattern is to use your gouges to cut out shape and use that to punch out your pattern.
Went through some of the techniques for carving in 3-dimensions (laying out curves with compass, free drawing it, paper-thin patterns with pins to nail on, etc)
Took a break and let folks try out the tools
Discussed concern about splits with wood (going both with the grain, and against the grain)
Discussed ways to flatten around a carving (router, gouges to flatten it, etc.) leave 1/8” or 1/16” around it, and then use gouge to make final cut
Typical formula/sequence for carving: Reduce background, set in periphery, determine high & low spots, etc.) Think about the order you will do and marks you will need to make before you do a step
He has a tendency to start with large gouges and finish with small gouges
Showed the tool kit that his friend gave to the guild. This will be stored in the workbench
Jim discussed building a boat 2 years ago for Woodworks – a Dragonboat
Mark announced that Fri/Sat this week is Hearne Hardwood’s open house
They have 17 different vendors at the site (SAPFM, Lie Nielsen tools, etc.)
Bandsaw of 62” width that will be demo’d.
10 AM to 4 PM
Also announced Colonial Williamsburg SAPFM Jan 16-20 (great presenters)
Mike sent out discount tickets to the Philadelphia furniture show on line
Next Meeting on Thursday, Nov 7th
The meeting concluded at 9:15 PM.
September 5, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 26
Notes:
1. Mike opened the meeting at 7:25 PM. Jim is under the weather.
2. New person, Emil
Looking for maker spaces and found the guild
Currently working on a table for his kitchen
3. Dave doesn’t have an update on treasury
4. John Owens has volunteered to pinch hit on carving
Been with the guild about seven months
Titled “Everything I know about carving”
Thinks of himself as an antique furniture carver; a lot of the furniture of the 17th and 18th century had carvings on it (finials, carved feet, etc.)
Went through many of the “niches” of carving (figures, finials, etc.)
Going to cover a lot of the basics, maybe have a second session for more advanced
Hadley Chests, birds, totem poles, carousel horses, reliefs, Acanthus Leaf – all sorts of things to carve
A good beginner project might be a face on a pole. Sort of a caricature, like a cowboy
Discussed power carving with Dremel and power carver
Light is key item – need both regular daylight, and lamps with raking light – carving is all about shadows.
Showed a variety of ways to hold the wood down for carving (very important)
Also showed some safety gloves for those who hold the item and carve with their other hand
Talked about some of the tools used
i. Chip carving knives
ii. Gouges
iii. Chisels
Has a large number of tools, kept in a series of boxes
Used cheap dollar store plastic “totes”, used cut up hula hoops to create “slots” and large sheet of foam
He drilled holes for the hula hoops. Result is simple, cheap storage for the tools
Good woods to use: Basswood is best, mahogany is good, and poplar is your best for a cheap option.
Walnut and soft maple will work, especially for crisp lines
Suggestions on what tools to start with
i. Pick your project, and then just buy the tools to do that project
ii. Expand afterwards
iii. Classes will often provide a list of tools you will need
iv. Colonial Williamsburg carvers often only use 5-7 tools
For tools, best to identify a brand and stick with it (so you don’t buy something that you already have)
Gouges have a variety of widths and angles of curvature.
Some angles have fishtails, spoon bit and bent back
Also V-shaped tools – very useful, used for carving reference lines
Skew chisels
Do not buy spoon gouges unless you really need them. Same with dog leg and macaroni tool
Finished up with descriptions of some of the projects he worked on
5. Next Meeting on Thursday, October 3rd
6. The meeting concluded at 9:24 PM.
August 1, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 18
Notes:
1. Jim opened the meeting at 7:25 PM.
2. Thought was to ask folks to stand up, reintroduce themselves, and ask what they are looking for
Karl Kramer, 10x16 shed, wants to do bookshelves
Mark Showers, 2-3 years, Working on “eastern shore” corner cabinet
Mike R., joined this year, putting shop together,
Steve Smith, on-and-off 35+ years; enjoy making one of a kind items, likes to go to Habitat Re-Store and get used-up furniture, either fix it up or cut it up for lumber
William Duffield, professional furniture maker since 2000, retired, builds stuff for himself now
John Gilly, come to see what guild is doing
Scott James, comes here to get away from wife for a couple of hours. Done some sort of carpentry all his life, enjoys working at the workbench now (little boxes, stuff the kids like, etc.)
Mark B., been in guild from beginning; builds furniture and cabinetry. No projects pending (he’s built everything he can for his house – wife wants him to stop)
Bob M (Pitman); band director, retired in ’07. One area of his basement (500 sf) just dedicated to woodworking
Paul Flum, grew up fixing things (Mom was antique dealer), on 27th closing on 1921 house, so he’ll be fixing a lot of stuff; likes to go to flea market for cheap tools, and then goes up once a year to sell most of it off
Greg Vernon (May’s landing) been a member since 2nd year, still working at tech center, so doesn’t have enough time in the shop. He did bring in show and tell
i. Went to Africa last month on Safari
ii. Picked up branch of ebony of fallen tree
iii. Also had stuff carved out of ebony
iv. Made a plaque, using feet for clamps and one chisel (took about 1-1/2 hours)
Kevin Drevik, been a member for about 5 years, been woodworking for about 25 years, since we bought our home. Mostly furniture, getting into hand tools more and more. Interested in a presentation on design
John Owen (Cherry Hill) been doing it since he was 4 years old working with a brace and bit. Dovetails at 16, etc. Likes period furniture making, but gets distracted easily. Has done a lot of different things (shaving horse, Windsor chair, etc.)
Dave Potts: Been in guild for 10+ years, big SAPFM supporter, just drove down to North Carolina for annual presentation. Has taken a lot of classes at Philadelphia Furniture Workshop (with Alan Turner and Mario Rodriguez)
Dick Beckman, been a member since the beginning, do woodworking and stained glass. Haven’t turned on shopsmith for 2 years, and Dick has been making the coffee and bringing the snacks since year 2
Pete Wolser, dabbled in woodworking for many years, not a great woodworker, but right now he is making a chest out of walnut. Been working though his 900 board feet of walnut, cherry, etc. His daughter now wants to start woodworking
Mike Richter, grew up in North Jersey, worked for builders while in college. Started the guild, got about 12 people to show. Was the guild president for 10 years, now is moral support, and helps to get speakers
Jim Parise, President. His dad was the first woodworker that he knew. Talked about his father and mother bidding on a dilapidated house, won, disassembled (including straightening nails) and reassembled out on Long Island. Really loved working on woods, especially turning
3. Paul showed what he got at a flea market. Two large lathe chisels, one regular, and one fluted/grooved.
4. Scott James talked about a potential source of wood (slabs, offcuts, old flooring, etc) – Provenance, 1801 North American Street. Very inexpensive used lumber, architectural salvage
5. Jim wanted to ask folks about potential meetings in the future
July - Jig meeting?
January – tool sale/swap
Discussed how he used LD light, 12V power supply and some cord and made a light for his bandsaw
Blade guard
6. Mike talked about church request for sculpture for outside
7. Next Meeting on Thursday, September 5th
8. The meeting concluded at 9:07 PM.
July 11, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 19
Notes:
1. Jim opened the meeting at 7:35 PM.
2. Thought was to change meeting plan from Jigs to making an Ark – it was pouring!
3. General discussion on email – who can send, who cannot receive: Salman tested the issue, and there is no reason for any issues
4. Dave Potts (treasurer)
34 active paid members
$2,188.87 in account
5. Jim suggested the executive board review the potential for a speaker in September or October
6. Bob, Meg and sons Robert
In business for high-end furniture and cabinetry
Ship throughout the world
Meg is marketer and salesmen
7. William Duffield came to talk about jigs
Started with his tapering jig, for tapering legs
Sled with adjustment and clamps for making tapering legs
Numerous safety features to lock it down and not cutting against fence (so reduces kickback potential)
Side locks onto tablesaw fence and then slides forward and back to cut square
Next showed his push sticks, which can be much safer than standard ones (holds back of the stick down so it doesn’t climb out)
Showed his “fork” hold-own which can be used when using tablesaw, miter saw, etc. Keeps your hands away from blades
Went through materials for making the jigs (great hockey tape demo)
Went through router table fence, with adjustable sides – based on bit being used
Hinged stop block to make repetitive cuts. Needs to be a solid hinge, so there is no side-to-side play in it
One inch “stop block” for tablesaw fence for safety. You can then put up against fence, then as it moves towards blade, it leaves block and has space after the side so it doesn’t get pinched
8. Salman showed his sled jig
Sled used in place of jointer to make straight line
Uses the Freud thin kerf “glue line” rip blade on tablesaw, puts wood in sled and runs across to make straight edge
Also showed saw “push block” to run through tablesaw
Scrollsaw jig for holding piece clamped while cutting. Used wing nuts (instead of knobs) so he could reverse on each side (knobs tend to be bigger and get in the way)
9. Ted showed large fence with problems/issues
Multiple clamps for holding piece on
Fence bends, so it suffers from some accuracy issues
Also showed steam engine making jigs (makes the pieces necessary for small steam engine for small boats)
10. Mark showed off his sharpening jig: Deneb Polaski’s jig for different distances for degrees of angle for blades
11. Next meeting on Thursday, August 1st
12. The meeting concluded at 9:07 PM.
May 2, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 27
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:25 PM.
Liz
Hasn’t done much since High School
Interlocking colors of wood
Tried forging a spearhead
Kevin Doherty
New to woodworking
Crown molding, bookshelves, stool
Bill Stoudt
Recently retired
Been doing woodworking for many years, want to do more
Mostly small gifts, working on blanket chest for daughter’s wedding
Dave (Treasurer)
Have 34 paid members (increase of 3 over 2018)
$2,454.87 in account at this time (enough to pay for speakers)
Maybe August for a speaker/demo
Carl brought in a stool
Made without glue
Loves historic furniture, more interested in vernacular (farmers, normal folks)
Made with red oak, used hand tools (axe, drawknife, Spring-pole lathe, etc.)
Working with wet wood, split, built before wood dried
Jim discussed Camden “urban promise” boat building
Tom and Jeff were with him fiber-glassing a boat
Tom and Jeff work with inner city kids in Camden, building boats
Part of small urban school, 200 kids
Take kids out of classroom, and boats is part of it
Kids range from 6th-12th grade
Built about 50 different types of boats (dragon boats, sailboats, rowboats, etc.)
Building a 25 ft cedar strip canoe – all adult build (so members are invited to come over & build)
They are there every day, working on boat, and you would be able to attend to assist
Potentially planning on working on Saturday as well
Hoping to complete by June 20th
Watched video of what they do with the kids – very inspiring
Meeting had a break, where open discussion was had by the members
Went through a series of safety videos from Jim
Stupid use of table saw
Complacency in the workshop can get you hurt
Equipment for the shop (goggles, hearing protection, respirator, etc.)
Fire safety (fire extinguisher, containers of water, etc.)
Jim and guild talked about other safety items (krazy glue to close wounds, etc.)
Steel toed shoes
Dust collection critical – Mike discussed people who had serious lung issues due to industrial setting
Jim also suggested putting a hands-free device such as an Amazon Echo or Google device in the shop in case one becomes incapacitated and cannot reach their phone
Next Meeting on Thursday, June 6th
The meeting concluded at 9:04 PM.
April 4, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 24
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:22 PM.
Pete is a new person for the guild. Hasn’t been in shop for several months while doing bath remodel. Retired, Shop on 2nd floor of house, builds mostly period furniture. SAPFM member (and web master)
Dave discussed treasury
32 paid members
$2279.87 in funds
Jim wanted folks to show off some of the stuff they brought
Jim showed off his turned bowls, with colored epoxy to fill the voids
Put epoxy in and finished turning it. Suggested to use the white scratch pad with water, and use sander, elbow grease, or the lathe to sand off
Make sure you let it sit for a bit to harden, and make sure you don’t heat it up too much
Jim showed wooden cherry burls in Elmer, NJ, that the owner of the land wants to sell: about 200 of them. Going to take them to Phil Hauser’s house and Phil will auction them off
Dave showed off his Queen Anne arm chair legs. Used 2x10 lumber to make mock ups before finalizing
Make sure you cut the mortises when they are flat before you do the shaping. Difficult to do once it is carved
Used carbon paper to trace pattern, but it was difficult
Frank went through his Ham radio signs, and explained some of the numbering/lettering. W = United States, #2 is your area (NY/NJ),
Got strips of mahogany, resawed through band saw to get to 3/8”, ran through planner to get to 1/16”, used that to face it
Then used sign making jig to cut. Had to make multiple passes, in order to get clearance, and get rid of wood. Took about ½ hour to cut six letters out, due to need for patience
Ted showed off Kayak paddles . Handle is a half-round, Wood is sized to his hand, not generic. Laminated with three pieces. Ends are going to be rounded (square right now)
Used Chisel, Spokeshave, drawknife to shape. Issue is work-holding (clamp vises, etc.)
Greg showed off his puzzle box. Lid had four dovetails, one on each side. How do you open it? Turns out the dovetails are at an angle, so if you slide the lid at 45 degrees, it comes off.
Greg then shared some of the various jigs that he used to make them
Question from Mike on fixing a broken spokeshave. Can it be brazed/welded? It can be – but it may end up costing more than just purchasing a new one
Discussion on mortised dovetails for cutting boards in Mortise & Tenon magazine
Jim moved the meeting to a discussion on shop safety
Once saw video of someone cutting a walnut (the nut, not the lumber) on tablesaw
Cutting curved pieces on bandsaw unsafely
Group shared numerous gruesome stories of electrocution, loss of fingers, and general mayhem in the shop.
Salman talked about invitation for the email list. You have to accept the email invitation in order to receive future email messages
Mark noted about Winterthur museum “Joinery and early cabinetmaking at Winterthur” on Thu/Fri, Apr 25-26. http://pressroom.winterthur.org/pdfs/15884%20Furniture%20Up%20Close%202019%20online%20brochure_LR.pdf
Next Meeting on Thursday, April 4th
The meeting concluded at 8:58 PM.
March 7, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 28
Jim opened the meeting at 7:25 PM.
No new faces
Thoughts on Wood Show
Bob was not impressed. Seemed it was very small, a lot of clubs
Baltimore was bigger & better
Club booths told Mike they were asking if there was a guild in South Jersey
A turners’ club was there. Making tops and letting folks try it out. Another one was giving turned items for charity
Discussion about what we would do (demonstrations, participation, etc.)
Talked about visual info (who you are, where you are located, etc.), greeters on staff, and demonstrations
Talked about volunteer groups – tried to “pull people in” to do stuff, try things out, etc.
Talked about using hand tools to get the kids involved
Lectures by members of club
Baltimore vs. Secaucus?
Quite a commitment – have to man the booth. 4 guys, 3 days, two groups = 24 guys
Question: What are we going to do with them once they come?
Mike & Salman got a request from a company wanting to “sponsor us” Erie Tool Works
Mom & Pop company in Erie PA, been around for 5+ years
Bench tools & accessories, Moxon vise
Also makes a “clamp gauge” – a caul which is used with bar clamps to better distribute clamp pressure across the face
Wants to “sponsor” our club with a 10% discount
Also has training information (documents, video, etc.) that he could offer it
Decision to not accept sponsorship – lack of interest by chapter
William Duffield presented on some of the woodworking that he as done over the last 40+ years
Bench-on-bench/Auxiliary bench – used to get work up close, for more detailed work
Also useful for demo’s when you are away from your shop (used on truck tailgate, on Workmate, etc.)
Vise on end, with handle that comes apart (so you don’t snag it getting in/out)
Comfortable height for you is right at the bend of the elbow
Plans for it is in the back issue of Fine Woodworking “tools & shop” edition for 2014
Gramercy Toolworks Holdfasts, good bargain, works well, especially as you wear off their rust-retarding finish
Don’t make out of Oak – tends to chip on backside of holdfast
Showed off various attachments to the bench – dovetailing vise, End vise, wooden bench dogs, portable lights,
Height good for using router, etc.
The guild broke up for discussions and to ask face-to-face meetings with folks.
Next Meeting on Thursday, April 4th
The meeting concluded at 9:10 PM.
February 7, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 32
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:22 PM.
Jim asked all the “old faces” to stand up and re-introduce themselves
Jim Parise, current president, here since 2nd meeting
Mike Rickter, original president, 15 years ago
Dave Potts, current treasurer, 10 years
Carl, found group on meetup, Professional since 1982, now working in basement on his own stuff
Dominic, been doing it since he was very young
Phil, wood turner, sometimes feels odd coming here with all the “flat” woodworkers
Brad, relatively new (3 months ago), engineer by trade
Mark, Greenwood NJ, restoring old woodworking machinery
William Dunfield, one of the original folks, builds 18th century furniture
Joe, since he was a kid (15 years) about 5 years. Doing electric
Tom Hagar. Has tried anything. Here to learn
John Busca, been here a year, just setting up shop
Frank, retired about 4 years. Been monkeying with woodworking most of his life. Got serious about 35 years ago, built up a shop
Pam Anderson, violin maker, restoration
Tony, 2nd generation carpenter and furniture maker
Ted, historian, full time dad, 12 years ago he build a rowboat, and now builds canoes and kayaks
Bob, been a member for several years, bought a house in 1972, and started doing stuff to it, retired in 2007 and started doing a lot more then
Rick, retired retail person, grandfather was cabinetmaker
John Owen, been woodworking since he was a teenager, carving, etc.
Pete, retired about 10 years, sailed for 8 years. Done woodworking all his life, off and on
Mike, 2nd meeting. Does mechanical & electrical repair. Done woodworking most of his life, on and off (home projects)
Scott James, carpenter for years, with his father. Moved into trade shows & events
John, doing handyman work. Can’t get into shop (too full of tools)
Greg, still an engineer, but gets as much done in the shop as he can, 9 years
Harry, one of the original 7, made fine furniture, country furniture. Big on shaker boxes
Salman, software engineer, here for the food. Owns a lathe and scroll saw
Diego, recently purchased a miter saw. Found us on the internet
Steve, recently retired, doing a lot of furniture repair & refinish recently
Kirk, retired, did a lot of home improvement, worked for navy, now retired
Kirk Jr, doing projects with dad, got house 3 years ago, turned garage into shop, gets his tools as passed down from his dad
Paul, attorney, doing woodwork since he was a little kid,
Ray, got started in Moorestown High School at nights, did cabinet work for family & friends
Membership
Dues are $50 a year (see Dave Potts)
The money goes to:
Paying speakers
Rent for the meeting hall
Snacks and Coffee
Tool/Book Library available (check out website for list)
Salman showed off the $0.99 saw he bought last month at the auction, and what a lot of electrolysis will do. Rust pretty much gone!
Phil came and sowed off one of his turnings, and talked about a friend who will be bringing a truckload of burls off to his house. Anyone interested, let Phil know
Jim showed off his bowl work (beautiful wood, a pleasure to turn because of smell)
Woodworking Show Brainstorming
We were invited to show at Secaucus wood show (Mar 1-3) – booth for free. Salman got email from person at show
Thought was it was too short a timeline to prepare (less than a month ago)
Form a committee to determine what we can do for show
Have to do all three days
Primary Purpose: Recruiting
Ideas for booth:
Need to be doing stuff to attract people
Space roughly 10’ x 20’
Backdrop with symbol of guild
Flyers/brochures to hand out
Activities:
Showing stuff
Displays of work
Making small items
Selling items?
Ideas
Printed materials
Business cards
Shirts
Members commit to ½ day
Club members build toys for kids?
Get folks involved & interested
Thought was to have guild members attend this year’s event (Mar 1-3), take pictures, form ideas, and then come back for March/April meetings ready to brainstorm
Mark talked about the SAPFM event
Colonial Williamsburg event in January (6 members of our guild are also SAPFM members)
Theme was five shops
Display area before dinner
Antique tool dealers
Can take classes from SAPFM members
Highlight of show is person who started Mortise & Tenon magazine
Discussion by group on providing scholarships & reaching out to potential members
Dave went over his process for building his 3-dimensional cutting boards
Dangerous cut to be made with table saw, made at 60 degrees with a “captured cut”
Used special push stick to help secure the board and keeping it from kicking back
Used board/box to arrange them while gluing up
Can put through sander, but not planer as they are end-grain
Lie Nielsen tool show + other vendors (Feb 22-23), Philadelphia Maritime Museum (by Ben Franklin bridge)
Woodworking show in Secaucus (Mar 1-3) – road trip
Next Meeting on Thursday, March 7th
The meeting concluded at 9:10 PM.
January 3, 2019
Total # of Attendees: 25
Jim opened the meeting at 7:23 PM.
New folks
Mike
Moved here from Oklahoma
Trying to get back into it
Joined for the fun
Eric Evans (Mullica Hill)
Hobby for him (works in finance) but worked in the trades in college
Wants to learn
Steve Smith (here for 2nd time)
Paul Plum
Hobbyist but did work in cabinet shop for a couple of years
Wants to do more
Pete
Worked off & on for some time
Trying to do a few project here & there
Jim was looking for someone named “Jordan” who wanted someone to build a coffin for him. Nobody volunteered, either as “Jordan” or to build it.
Dave
$1,581 as of Jan 1, 2019
Everyone’s dues are due tonight
Going down to Williamsburg for SAPFM, will try to get speakers
39 Paid members
Woodworking show in Baltimore this weekend (Jan 4-6)
Midwest tool association tool auction in York PA on Sat, Jan 26th
Mark talked about Winterthur
Closed down, but willing to give us a group tour as a guild
About ten people said they would be interested in going
Domini workshop – four generations made clocks in Long Island. Laid there tools down & left, and someone Winterthur bought it out and kept it
Frank talked about his jig that he is auctioning off – crown moulding
Various wood jigs to cut the types of moulding (outside 45, inside 45, etc.)
Different angles, based on ceiling height
Use miter saw, move it to 45, and then leave it there. From that, you just use the jigs to cut it.
They are all labeled, 3 jigs
Tonight is tool auction
Mark has volunteered as the auctioneer
Auction went very well – there was a lot of merchandise, and Mark did an excellent job
Plan is to do this again next year, and advertise it a little more in advance
Next Meeting on Thursday, February 7th.
The meeting concluded at 8:42 PM.
December 6, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 22
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:23 PM.
Jim was looking for someone named “Jordan” who wanted someone to build a coffin for him. Nobody volunteered, either as “Jordan” or to build it.
New guy: Al
Newbie
Playing around with hand tools and getting fun
It’s his birthday – Happy Birthday
Other new guy: Gavin Wester
Retired Merchant Mariner
Plays around with tools and works with Habitat
Holiday Party
Currently have 13 RSVPs
Short Hills Deli in Voorhees
No special room or pricing, so just order off menu
Salman inquired about food, to determine if it would fit his palate
Shows
Woodworker Show in Baltimore Jan 3-5. Carpools available (ask Jim)
Woodworker Show in North Jersey Mar 3-6
Lie Nielsen show Feb 22-23
Mark asked if we wanted to try and get Deneb from Lie Nielsen to come to chapter meeting. To do this, we’d have to change the March meeting
Mark suggested another used tool sale event. General consensus was next meeting January
Dave Potts (Treasury)
Thin on bank account, but it’s due in January
Currently with $1,681 left
Currently have 38 members on mailing list, only 1 missing email
SAPFM meeting in Williamsburg in January, will see if we can get someone to come up
Brian Menold
Been a member of Guild for many years
Been told he is an odd woodworker, or not even a woodworker
He makes high end wooden puzzles for folks all over the world.
Does work for about 4 weeks, post on internet, sells within 48 hours, then starts over
Spends about 12 hours/day in shop, but on his schedule.
You can make a puzzle in about 30-45 minutes
Brian urged everyone to look at finding a niche after you retire and exploit it – and you can get customers for life
Showed his 4” model makers saw, machined aluminum sled, fence has micrometer measurement
Try to be within 3-4 thousandth of an inch (that tight). Accuracy is of the utmost importance
Spent about $950 on the saw, fence, sled, etc. It paid for itself in the amount of time saved
With sled, crosscut ability is down to about ¾” – but that is about all he does
Also showed off his sander, small, quiet, but able to get him the accuracy he needs
Gets his wood from Groff & Groff or Hearne. Does a lot of exotics, because his small size of product/puzzles allows him to work with hard-to-get woods
Passed around some of the puzzles for folks to try out
Brian demonstrated some of the puzzles and how to unlock them
Doesn’t provide solution on how to undo puzzle. Most of his customers are college professors, etc. Very smart, and they want to solve it themselves
He has a program to do the design, and he has people send him designs. They typically ask for a royalty or a few copies of the puzzle
Jim talked about us having a tree planted for Carl’s Mom, and we gave the card to Carl.
Next Meeting on Thursday, January 3rd.
The meeting concluded at 8:40 PM.
November 1, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 25
Jim opened the meeting at 7:22 PM.
Dave talked about his recent wood purchases, trials and tribulations with getting wood from Erik Van Dexter
See last month’s minutes for details on his sales and auction
The auction of his wood and tools is this Saturday, Nov 3rd
Address is 116 Densten Road, Sewell NJ 08080
New Folks were introduced
Ray Sutton: Carpenter, architectural millwork shop, near Barrington.
Brad Sanders, St. Louis, woodworker for years, checking us out
Dave has 2x8 sawhorses, built on Popular Woodworking model
Take it apart, held together with wedges
Put 1 coat of waterlox on it to preserve
Discussed how he cut wedges with band saw, mortises, etc.
Jim opened discussion on Christmas party for December meeting
Will have party in addition to our regular Dec meeting (Dec 6)
Party will be 2nd Thursday, Dec 13th
Location at Tarantella restaurant
128 Route 70, Medford, NJ
Jim will set reservation and provide information
Mark gave presentation on saw sharpening
Started the discussion with the SAPFM . Great organization, lots of information on making period furniture.
Mark showed the “spider” that he got from Roy Underhill
A spider is a gauge to measure you set of the large saws
Depending on type and dimension of wood, etc. you would use this to gauge how to set your saw
Discussed Diston saw vise – how it works, how you could make a holder (out of 1x4 hardwood) in order clamp it easier. This helps when working on your “fleem” (see below)
First operation is to “joint” the saw – to take the top of every tooth and level it across the saw
Run flat file across raker about 10 thousands of an inch in the middle
Use triangular saw to deepen angle across each tooth, alternating – until you get rid of each flat spot on each tooth
General rule is 30 degrees, but historically, folks would file saw to do a specific task. You would need a large enough file for the teeth edge
Discussion on what is available for new handsaws (example: http://www.badaxetoolworks.com/ – who will make saw to the fleem and method you want)
Mark showed his Diston saws (three of them). The older ones were of real quality (and are worth a lot of money now)
Discussion on “hang” of saw, and how it handled for specific purpose
Showed Ron Herman’s DVD showing how to sharpen and maintain saws. He runs a carpenter shop/house building company which uses handsaws
Mark got introduced to this due to heating house with wood. He mostly uses a chainsaw, but has the handsaw in the car to use.
Salman asked how long it takes to sharpen. Mark said 30 min max to do the job
Jim talked about his scary sharp story
Back in 1968 when he left parents’ home to go to Drexel
Discussed story that related to sharpening – how much is too much?
Mike said the wainscoting project is put on hold, due to church construction
Next Meeting on Thursday, December 6th. Note that depending on restaurant availability for Christmas party (see above) it may be moved to December 13th.
The meeting concluded at 8:42 PM.
October 4, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 24
Jim opened the meeting at 7:26 PM
Some difficulty setting up the bench. Had to get the expert up to get it ready
New Folks were introduced
Steve: hobbyist, doing it for 30 years, retiring at end of month, so hopefully more time; small collection of tools in basement 12x24 ft. Wainscoting (Mike?)
Eric: Graphic design & video during the day; got into woodwork to make furniture. Mostly home improvement right now, but looking forward to learning
Treasurer’s report (Dave):
Gaps in phone database;
37 members; as of this month
$1,945.98
Email list; Rick Gold; didn’t get email. Dave will check it out
Folks shared a few of the small projects they had worked on
Justin DiPalma woodworker extraordinaire (http://www.craftedheirlooms.com/)
Nine Years doing furniture. Did construction with his father before that (finish work)
Own a one-man shop, with six-month backlog
Has been here before and done demos. Tonight he wanted to show off how he does a cabinet
Most cabinets he gets pre-finished plywood to construct, with face-frame. Pieces are more expensive, but it is much easier.
Invested in Festool Domino. Expensive, but proven to be worth it. He originally did face frames with pocket screws & biscuits, and he often had paint issues (cracks, etc.). Has been a great purchase
Makes his own domino tenons, using tablesaw, drum sander & router. Uses sled to cut to length
Folks joked with him about changing his shop over to Festool. He’s purchased several Festool items, but not everything. The quality is great.
Glue face frame straight to plywood. Not using biscuits, nails, or anything. Long grain to plywood is a sufficient hold.
Creates base for cabinet, levels them, and then glues/caulks cabinet to base. Does not screw them in, so no ugly screws. Caulk/glue is strong enough to hold.
Cabinet square, ¾” plywood. Sides to length, top & bottom 1-1/2” shorter
Tall fence on shaper/router table. Run side’s tall ways, top & bottom face down. Then you have a spline that helps connect them together.
Measure it so that you have sides go in same orientation as top/bottom and it should always fit
Put spline in with a little glue, glue other piece. If cut right, it should glue up square relatively easily.
Get plywood & banding at Fessenden Woodworking (Pennsauken). Tell them you are from the woodworker’s Guild for discount.
Uses pin hole cutter from woodcraft to make pin holes for shelves
Edge banding with wood block to set down. Use iron to seat. Should be hot enough to feel it. Use chisel to clean up – but you have to read the grain!
Then use file to finish, handle up, and pull it (not back & forth)
Puts cleat on back for top & bottom, plus blocks are set into back
Uses a lot of glue – plywood sucks it up
Drill press with forstner bit for door hinge hardware
Likes spoon pins for shelf hardware – takes the “wobble” out of shelf if a little off
Justin does the Against the Grain Podcast
Mike introduced Eric VanDexter from Sewell. Got a lot of lumber and tools
Cabinet maker for 41 years
At 59 years old planning on retiring
Looking for a successor for his business
Planning to scale down & liquidate the business
Nov 3rd auction, all woodworking equipment, machinery, lumber, etc. Auction details: https://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/3170844.html
Going to keep his sawmill, dry in his homemade kiln
Located at 116 Densten Road, Sewell, NJ
Cell phone number 856-371-4269
Note that once he signs contract, he cannot sell anything individually
Mike said the materials are pretty much in place for the wainscoting project for the church. Look for emails.
Next Meeting on Thursday, November 1st. Mark may be showing how to use the “spider” to sharpen large hand saws, if he gets a specific item completed in time
The meeting concluded at 9:02 PM.
September 6, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 22
Notes:
Jim opened the meeting at 7:29 PM.
New Folks were introduced
Joe: Guitars & furniture
Dominic: Finish carpenter, enthusiast, happy to be here
Question on wainscoting project. Mike was waiting for donations of materials from Lowe’s & Home Depot. Plan is to do it next Saturday (Sep 15th)
Jim showed his materials for the turner’s club. Theme was “make something you saw in a magazine.” He made a spinning top that also whistles through the holes in it. General applause by guild
Dave talked about three projects that he had been working on
Talked about struggles with veneer on table (sanded off first top on belt sander)
Dogwood flowers made out of Holly
If you are doing Marquetry, one of the design concerns is the depth of the scroll saw. If your table is 19” wide/in circumference, you’ll need a scroll saw with at least a 20” throat
Draw what you want to put on, place a piece of carbon paper on the wood and trace it to show what you want to cut out
Uses 5/64” veneer piece for overlay
Tilt plate of scroll saw 7 degrees
Figure out grain direction and match for top. Tape bottom piece on
Key is to design how it will go down and fit in. Often you will be going over your existing work with your next set.
He started out with branches, then leaves, then petals, then center.
Discussed some of the special tools and bits he used for the work.
Make sure you have a lot of bits and saw blades before you start a project – they break a lot in doing this, even with 5/16” stock
Dave did some demo work on the scroll saw to show off his methods
Mark discussed “making wood in the 18th century” down in Colonial Williamsburg, January 17-20, 2018. Five different craftsmen areas doing various works and holding discussions (joiners shop, wheelwright, etc.). https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/learn/conferences/working-wood
Dave showed off his Butler’s Chest (built at the Philadelphia Furniture Workshop).
Each drawer has 11 dovetails
Expensive brass drawer pulls (Londonderry)
Special hinges for the desk pull down (difficult to get in)
Had it partially completed, but when he brought it home, he sat on it for 6 months before starting back up on it
Some discussion on cock-beading of drawers (Dave is very militant here)
Purple Martin House (birdhouse) for birds that eat mosquitoes.
Next Saturday, Sep 15th, Woodcraft of Delaware has its tool exchange, beginning at 9:30 AM. https://www.woodcraft.com/stores/wilmington/blog/entry/annual-tool-swap-september-15-wilmington
Hearne Hardwoods in Pennsylvania (200 Whiteside Drive, Oxford PA) will have their annual open house on Saturday, Sep 29th. Club road trip was discussed.
Traditional Small Craft association http://traditionalsmallcraft.com , local small craft in Millville, NJ 9 AM – 3 PM, lots of wooden boats, etc.
Jim showed his pictures of the Adirondack chairs made with 200+ year old wood. Tour of his place and then travel to Bone Saw brewery
Next Meeting on Thursday, October 4th. Mark may be showing how to use the “spider” to sharpen large hand saws, if he gets a specific item completed in time
The meeting concluded at 8:40 PM.
August 2, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 18
Notes:
Mike opened the meeting at 7:40 PM.
New Folks were introduced, but Kevin was unable to get their names (pic 1 & 2)
Proposal made to have a new report on how many beers were drunk at Brew House prior to meeting. Motion passed
Kevin Drevik presented on his “knock down” workbench that he built at the Woodwright’s school in Pittsboro NC (pic 3)
School info and class schedule located at http://www.woodwrightschool.com
Class based on Will Myers Moravian Workbench (note: DVD is now available if guild members want to take and build bench of their own) (pic 4)
Class started with wood pre-milled, so students primarily worked on joinery and sawing to final dimensions
Most of joinery was on legs (bridle joint, through mortise and dovetail) so first 3 days primarily spent on joinery and assembly of the two legs (pic 5)
Hardest part was the tenon ripping for the bottom rails (eight 18” rips) (pic 6)
Had to cut tenons & mortises in bottom rail and to of workbench for the vise block (pic 7)
Vise was pre-made, but had to be set into backer block, have lower guide mortised in and drilled, and have large rabbet cut into one leg to help secure it (pic 8)
Top consisted of an 18” wide, 4” thick slab of oak (pic 9)
Tool tray was added to complete, made of pine pieces
Overall class took 5 days. Left with bench almost entirely completed. Just had to do tool tray, round off the top of the vise, and cut the legs to final height once they were back in my shop and I knew what I wanted
A lot of fun. I highly recommend taking classes at the Woodwright’s School.
Some discussion on upcoming open house day at Hearne’s Hardwoods (http://www.hearnehardwoods.com). Always a good time, some interesting vendors, and the opportunity to get some good wood. Kevin suggested that he might rent a truck, so folks could get wood and bring back
Next Meeting on Thursday, September 6th. Mark may be showing how to use the “spider” to sharpen large hand saws, if he gets a specific item completed in time
The meeting concluded at 9:20 PM.
June 7, 2018
Number of attendees: 24
- Mike opened the meeting at 7:26 PM.
- New Folks
- Joe Ligardy – furniture
- Tom Kazer – 35 years of woodworking as an amateur
- Dusty – 10 years making furniture
- Sam – beginner, hoping to become artistic
- Ray – long time woodworker, retired remodeling contractor
- Jeff – boat builder, worked around the world
- Rick – old time, still fairly new woodworker
- Jeff Halden (Maple shade NJ)
- Started playing with chainsaws & loved it
- Got a Wood-Mizer chainsaw mill
- Got a lot of maple and red oak all the time
- Can do up to 34” wide, 20ft long, any depth
- Can go to folks houses and cut down their trees
- Also has a portable kiln he is starting to use
- David – principal of EM studio (small furniture company)
- Everything is designed & made by him
- Works with wood, but identifies as a designer more (wood is one of his media, like metal)
- Went through his design process – understanding how it will be used
- Also talks about details and how they make the design special
- Used practice, iteration, and improvement each time to make the design correct
- Takeaway – find a way to practice, learn the steps to work on making things better each time
- Most important thing is to love what you are doing and do not be afraid of the next thing you are doing
- Dave Potts (treasurer) talked about membership and money
- Working on email distribution, need to update the list
- $2,444.17 in the treasury
- We haven’t paid for the trees or defibrillator yet.
- Members on roll: 28 paid members
- Phil discussed his life in building bowls
- Friend passed away, and his widow gave his friends a large amount of bowl blanks
- Committed to the widow of his friend that they would make some beautiful bowls
- Jeff came to talk about boat building
- Working with wood since he was a teenager (carving walking sticks, etc.)
- Had 1500 square feet shop he had to liquidate, due to moving
- Got a job in Sydney building boats (everything’s curved templates, etc?)
- Talked about making a hollow mast, in order to reduce waste
- Walked folks through the jigs that he used to create it – very simple
- Used a shipping tube with some sanding paper on it to sand the mast shape
- Talked about sails (Junk sails, etc.)
- Mark had a couple of announcements
- Talked about Ponzio’s dinner (good beer, good times)
- Also talked about 18th century beer seminar in Colonial Williamsburg in November
- Next Meeting on Thursday, July 12th, as the result of a vote to postpone it by a week because of the July 4 holiday. Mark will be showing how to use the “spider” to sharpen large hand saws
- The meeting concluded at 9:20 PM.
May 3, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 23
- Jim opened the meeting at 7:31 PM.
- Dave Potts (treasurer) talked about membership and money
- $2,371.17 in the treasury
- Updated domain name for 2 years
- Members on role: 24 paid members
- Mark let folks know Delaware tool exchange just got in a shipment of 100 new woodworker books (see pictures for some of the selection)
- $5 apiece or less (the pictures show the $5 ones only)
- Salman will put up pictures on website
- Chuck Bender (from Acanthus workshop) came to give a class on Bermuda Dovetails
- Period furniture maker for last 40 years, Sr. Editor of Popular Woodworking Magazine, been on several TV shows, and taught at 360 Woodworking and Acanthus Workshop
- Currently living and teaching in Jim Thorpe, PA.
- https://acanthus.com/
- Bermuda dovetails, made in 18th century, on the island of Bermuda
- Philadelphia region had close ties to Bermuda. Many decorative elements made in Bermuda can be found here
- Hybrid through/half-blind dovetail
- Used patterns to cut out simple set
- Most of the furniture made in Bermuda cedar
- Chuck went through a live demonstration on how to do it, while the guild watched and participated
- Use marking gauge to mark pin board on both sides, and tail board on inside, then mark for half-blind ones
- Transferred pin layout on board to thin maple stock for pattern – then used gouges and chisels to create unique pattern
- Initially cut them out like half-blind dovetail, and then layout pattern on pins
- Use jeweler’s saw to cut out the Bermuda dovetail pattern on the front sides of the pin board
- Use file to fine tune to lines
- Layout pattern on tails, then chisel away to depth to match pin board
- Lie on top and hammer in, then mark where you need to make adjustments. Take apart, clean up and try again. As you do more of these joints, you’ll get better, and be able to finalize after 3-4 tries
- Next Meeting on Thursday, June 7th. Mark will be showing how to use the “spider” to sharpen large hand saws
- The meeting concluded at 9:20 PM.
April 5, 2018
Total # of Attendees: 23
Notes:
- Dave opened the meeting at 7:38 PM.
- New People:
- Chris Sandy (violin player & nutritionist)
- Joe (Chris’ friend) plays the ukulele
Rickold – retired and dabbles in woodworking - Ray Rosen – remodeling contractor/trim carpenter; building furniture; club member in Maryland
- Dave Potts (Treasurer):
- 20 paid members for year so far
- Amount is $2771.49 (with the $100 tonight)
- Mark talked about the Traditional Small Craft Association – does a bid & buy (tool auction). Suggested that we auction off at low prices for new folks
- Also suggested we move dinner to Iron Hill Brew in Maple Shade (1/2 price beer on 1st Thursday). Just down King’s Highway, about a mile from church meeting place
- Matthew brought a cutting gauge that he made by hand – he bought some blades by Hock.
- Delaware tool exchange just got in 100 books in – some really good older ones
- Pam to talk about Violin construction
- From Oregon, started playing Cello. Studied in music in PA
- Captivated by idea of making Cello
Four years in violin making school, then got job in Philadelphia (off & on for 30 years) - Showed off some of the basics of creating the violin
- Get wood from supplier, will cut down middle and book match it
- Get block with tighter grain
- Use corner blocks for corners, end pieces, then tab of hot glue/hide glue
- Bend the ribs, using a piece of hot metal to warm it gradually, then shape it into the form you wanted
- Starting out, not that much theory - key was to get control of tools and get accuracy.
- Created their own workshop, to make instruments there to support their lifestyle
- Made what she was interested in, then sold them
- Talked about the portable Cello from World War I that fascinated her
- Interesting discussion on egg white, gum Arabic, sugar, honey etc. to let it soak in, then apply coat of varnish. This would help it absorb evenly
- Showed cute tool for marking inlay
- Mike mentioned the need to do wainscoting around the columns – needs helps. He will send a note around
- Next Meeting on Thursday, May 3rd at 7:30 PM. Chuck Bender will come down from Jim Thorpe to speak
- The meeting concluded at 9:00 PM.
March 8, 2013
Meeting pushed back a week due to inclement weather
Dave opened the meeting at 7:38pm.
Number of attendees: 13
New person:
Pam Anderson (Haddonfield)
Trained violin maker/repair
Working on a Cello
- Dave collecting membership fees. Remember $50 for club for the year
- Kevin and Dave worked to get Chuck Bender from Acanthus Workshop to come speak to the guild. Chuck will be here for the May meeting (May 3rd) and will be showing off the Bermuda Dovetail
- Note: Chuck is restarting the Acanthus Workshop school in Jim Thorpe, PA, after moving back here from Cincinnati
- Kevin going to The Woodwright’s School next week for a 5-day class. Anyone interested in old-time hand tools in excellent shape, let Kevin know, and he will pick them up from Ed Lebkin’s shop (above the Wood wright’s school). Contact Kevin at 856-630-2485 or kdrevik@yahoo.com, and give him your cellphone number so he can take a picture of the proposed tool and send it to you. You don’t need to provide advance money, Kevin can front you.
- Mike saw Dick Beckman over the weekend. Not doing as well, family going through some issues. Mike gave him the guild’s best wishes
- Salman showed his scroll saw skills
- Not noisy, not aggressive, so good for beginners
- Blade is small, fairly safe. It’s not going to take a finger off. The worst is a cut on the finger.
- Recommends pin less blades, held in place by tension. Salman prefers #5 blades for general, everyday use
- The bigger/longer the piece, the easier it is to hold, but the depth of the scroll saw will determine how long you can create it
- Three types of scroll saw blades
- Single tooth orientation (cut on down stroke)
- Reverse (some of teeth go the other way) – cleaner cut, but more vibration, since it is cutting up for some of the teeth. Ultra-reverse: every 3rd teeth goes the other way (cleaner cut, less vibration)
- Spiral blade: twisted blade, cutting surface on all sides/directions
- Good source of blades
- Lesley's Patterns
- Mike’s Workshop (South Dakota)
- Scrollers
- Cost: $22 for six dozen (72) Flying Dutchman blades. Recommended replacement time is every 30 minutes of constant cutting, but can get away with replacing them every hour, instead
- Straight cuts are hardest – easy to see deviation. Curves are more forgiving
- Standard way to start is to print out a pattern, spray adhesive and put on the wood.
- Problem with that method is that the only way to remove is with mineral spirits
- Salman prefers using painters tape before adhering the pattern as before, and then simply peeling it off after
- If you are doing something small, you will want to create a holding jig, to keep your fingers away from blade. Makes control a lot easier
- One of the key skills to learn is staying square in the cut (i.e. it isn’t wider at top vs bottom, etc.)
- Best way to do patterns, he suggests, is to use red outline for cut. Blade is black, shadow is black, so red line makes it easier to see
- Lots of free patterns on line (e.g., Steve Good). Google what you want, and see if it’s out there
- Cut out tree symbol on tablet stand. Once he saw it was chipping out in spots, he filled with epoxy. Looks great
- Discussion on tension to keep blade from wandering
- Various folks came up to try how to use the scroll saw
- Treasurer's Report (Dave):
- 18 paid members to date (counting the 3 checks he got tonight)
- Total in kitty $2,821.49
- Dave showed his sand shading and marquetry work (scroll saw technique). Top and bottom of tabletop. Used holly for leaves
- Next Meeting on Thursday, April 5th at 7:30pm. Mike R said he will have a speaker for the meeting
- The meeting concluded at 9:00pm.
